The rise and impending fall of the Playstation
Is Sony's future increasingly overcast?
Sony first elbowed its way onto the home console gaming market on 3 December 1994 when its Playstation launched as a rival platform to that of the SEGA Saturn and the greying Super Nintendo (SNES). An unknown performer in terms of the videogame industry, Sony duly offered console gamers the chance to immerse themselves in genuine 3D environments while assuming the position of genuine 3D characters. Such advanced gaming meant that it didn't take long for the Playstation to carve its demographic foothold, prompt the first rumblings of doom at SEGA, and cement its place in videogame history. As of March 2005, the original Sony Playstation and its more compact PSOne derivative have sold over 103 million units globally. The Playstation was, and always will be, a defining moment in console development.
The Playstation 2 launched to the sound of golden trumpets on 4 March 2000, and its arrival marked an overlap of superiority for Sony's console armoury as the original Playstation was still performing well-and would continue to do so for a few more years. Sony's dominance leading up to the release of the Playstation 2 had all-but put pay to the SEGA Saturn (which discontinued at the end of 2000 and had already been replaced by the next-generation SEGA Dreamcast), and also the Super Nintendo (which had itself been superseded by the Nintendo 64). Yet, despite both the Nintendo 64 and SEGA Dreamcast surpassing the performance power of the Playstation, and launching some time sooner than the Playstation 2 (1996 and 1998 respectively), Sony's grip on the market share was unshakeable, and faithful affection for the Playstation brand was showing no signs of waning.
Therefore, it comes as no surprise to discover that the Playstation 2 has, as of the close of 2005, sold more than 100 million units worldwide, which beats the original Playstation's landmark 100 million achievement by a staggering three years and nine months. Sony's DVD-equipped Playstation 2 effortlessly sauntered to the head of the console pack in March 2000 thanks to stealing a massive jump on its direct competitors (now Nintendo and Microsoft following SEGA's hardware closure) by reaching retail some 18 months before the emergence of Nintendo's GameCube (September 2001) and Microsoft's Xbox (November 2001). However, Sony's follow-up console would prove to be a disappointment in terms of gaming power, despite the overwhelming brand loyalty. Indeed, both the GameCube and Xbox duly delivered better performance and, in the case of the Xbox, an innovative Live multiplayer subscription service that opened-up gaming parameters far beyond anything on offer from Sony or Nintendo. Regardless of the competition, be that in terms of Nintendo's respected gaming history, or Microsoft's bottomless pockets and willingness to take massive Xbox profit slashes just to survive in the arena, the Playstation 2's 18-month advantage meant that a considerable catalogue of software had already amassed and consumers subsequently only had eyes for Sony's wide-ranging choice and proven pedigree.
The next six years, up until present day, saw the Playstation 2 leading the console pack with undisputed authority, even though the Xbox and GameCube managed to shift roughly 20 million units of hardware each since launch, and the Xbox (has thus far) racked up some 6 million subscribers to its Xbox Live service. However, neither products have come anywhere near touching the Playstation 2 in sales statistics, and rumours of Nintendo's hardware demise even circulated before the arrival of the next generation of consoles, whereas Microsoft have never turned a profit from the original Xbox.
The spread of next-generation consoles (namely the Nintendo Wii, Playstation 3, and Xbox 360) have caused a massively dramatic shift in the gaming battlefield, one that certainly pulls away from Sony's current favour. The 2005 E3 Expo in Los Angeles highlighted the first rumblings of trouble for Sony's dominance, when Microsoft's revealed its second console, the Xbox 360 (cleverly named as to avoid using Xbox '2' and appearing evolutionarily insufficient beside the Playstation '3') which visually outperformed the 'rendered PS3 sequences' that were passed off as genuine gameplay footage by Sony. Furthermore, the Playstation 3's now infamous 'boomerang' controller was hastily scrapped after E3 following terrible feedback, and it was also announced that the Xbox 360 would be arriving at retail at the close of 2005. This must have been a one-two combination that slammed Sony in the corporate ribs as usually affable consumers puffed their chests at a Sony peripheral and Microsoft swiftly turned the 'first to market' tables. But Sony seemed unworried by Microsoft's eagerness to spring from the gate and start nurturing the Xbox 360 consumer base, and claimed that a new and improved controller was in the pipeline. By contrast, it was a subdued E3 for Nintendo, the Japanese gaming legend remained quiet and reserved concerning its latest console, which was simply known as codename: Revolution.
The Xbox 360 launched on 22 November 2005, priced 299 USD/219 GBP and 399 USD/279 GBP for the Core and Premium packs respectively, and it immediately hit supply and demand problems, which quickly led to choking tailbacks in advanced orders (some registered as far back as the summer), which wouldn't eventually even out until well into the spring of 2006. Again, Sony offered no outward signs of distress concerning the obvious power of Microsoft's system, or its HD capabilities, or its media hub features, or its portable 20GB hard drive, or its advanced Live Marketplace component for the download of game content. If anything, Sony took a look under the 360's hood and openly scoffed that the Playstation 3 would surpass its performance. Meanwhile, Nintendo said nothing.
Outside the continued peacock grandstanding that both Sony and Microsoft are guilty of, as the scheduled November 2006 release date of the Playstation 3 looms ever larger on the horizon, there is a mounting catalogue of black marks forming against Sony's reputation. The videogame industry and actively interested consumers are acknowledging the fact that Sony is, perhaps, losing the plot. Sony, of course, remains staunchly ignorant of its own destructive tendencies.
Various news sources recently reported that Sony is seeking to implement a licensing patent on Playstation 3 games whereby the consumer will not 'own' the game they've 'purchased', but only the 'license' to play it. The software would therefore remain the property of Sony and, more importantly, it would be illegal for retail outlets to sell second-hand PS3 games. Other reports indicate that UK retailers have already received notification from Sony that second-hand sales of Playstation 3 games will be prohibited. Sony denies this. Further to the software licensing, which would force more full-price sales from Sony consumers, and make it nigh on impossible for those who cannot always afford full-price games to invest in the Playstation 3, the individual coding scandal continues to surface, whereby Sony would specifically code PS3 games to only play on the console they first boot on. Again, another attempt at driving down second-hand sales, to which Sony has also issued denials.
Comments
Hi,
I wonder why it suddenly is so hip to do some Playstation bashing? Is it because they are the market leader on the gaming front? I find it weird they get "punished" in all kind of reviews for having the best console and therefor selling it at a higher price. My point being who wouldn't want to pay more just to get a lot more. I agree the wii might be innovating, but I wonder for how long a new controller will be innovative. In my opnion it will be fun as long as it's new, but once that's gone, what remains? I guess it will sell good to kids but I don't know one hardcore gamer who wants to stand in front of his screen throwing his controller to the left and the right and up and down. I just feel like there going after two different market segments and therefor they shouldn't be compared because they aren't comparable. It's like lego and duplo, they're both fun to play with but you won't play with duplo when you're over 6.
PS: If my english isn't "fluent" that's because it isn't my native tongue
Down w/ Sony!
I agree on most points but the more I read about sony's 'incredible' price the more I've come to resent it, the xbox 360 is more expensive if you'd have to add all the features the ps3 has (I much doubt the HD-DVD drive will come in under $150 which puts the premium system only $50 behind the premium ps3 which has standard blue-ray, this is speculation of course but the extras ps3 has are rarely considered in the 'pricey' argument), granted some people won't need the extra features but considering the HD-DVD drive is an add-on, xbox 360 has 2 choices, either limit their games to standard dvds or make some games using HD forcing gamers who want to play those games to buy the add on.
The difference between the graphics I agree is indeed little but here I come to remember the difference between the SNES games when it first came out and the donkey kong games that came out in the end which was quite an advance in graphics at the time. Developers rarely exploit a consoles full capabilities right away, wether this is because they're not familiar with the hardware or there is some other reason I leave in the middle but to me this has always been a fact and I wouldn't be surprised that in a year or 2 you'll see the ps3 break off graphic-wise from the xbox360.
Anyway I could be wrong and the format wars will probably have a huge influence but I think right now a lot of folks are underestimating sony.
Where do I start with this beat-up which strikes me as a string of misleading 'FUD'? (all of which sound familar.. I suspect PR astroturfing).
1) You raise the possible scary tactic of Sony maybe locking games to a console. Which Sony never said they would do, have explictly denied and would require the games makers (EA etc) not Sony to do. So why bring it up? To create scary rumours.
2) That 'massive' price.. the base unit price is US$500 - only $100 (thats just two games) more than a Xbox360. For you US$100 you get much the same as the premium Xbox360 (i.e. fast next gen console, 20Gb drive etc) but you get HD output and a HD drive which is worth far more than the $100 - and of course a 3-axis tilt sensitive controller. Note that HD TV's cost more than standard TV's, but plasmas and LCD TV's are a big selling item at the moment?
3) You mention that the PS2 was widely successful despite being more expensive than a Gamecube; why? Hint - backward compatiblity with thousands of PS1 games. The PS3 runs thousands of PS2 and PS1 games - far more than the Xbox360, and looks to have a lot of support for this gen as well. The PS2 was also successful for including a DVD (expensive feature at the time).
4) You say really odd things like the PS3's "unproven, Blu-ray DVD drive that will go head-to-head against the 360's external HD-DVD drive". That is the BluRay (not DVD) drive which stores some 50GB of data/games/.movies will go head-to-head with the unproven, unpriced, unreleased external (25GB) add-on HD-Drive from Microsoft which will probably make the Xbox as expensive if not more than the PS3. And you may want to stop & think about the fact that most studio's are releasing HD movies for Blu-ray not HD. And if any game maker releases a HD game on HD-DVD most Xbox360 owners won't be able to play it until they buy the add-on.. and why buy one until games need it? Classic add-on chicken & egg problem.
I like the sound of the Wii - Nintendo are doing a lot right , but consoles have one purpose - that is playing games. Its going to depend on the exclusive games that are out. I didn't buy a GameCube because it didn't have the games like Gran Turismo, Halo or Grand Theft Auto that I wanted to play.
My worry with the Wii is that I buy it, play tennis/sword games on that neat remote for I while & find that I am missing out on some awesome games on the other consoles like Gran Turismo HD - it looks stunning & I am looking forward to it.
first of all i agree that playstation3 isnt all that fabulous. Granted that the hardware is impressive but as a software developer i know it would not be very simple writing code for it.
I do think that Microsoft has done a fabulous job with the 360 and have done a better job than sony.
The Nintendo wii with its catchy name has stolen the show and i wouldnt mind getting one (feel like it goes in my pocket).
But i have to admit , the tone of your article might put some people off. This is not journalism.
Regards
Umair
Your article is far too anti-establismentarian. It is ridiculous to criticise Sony before the release of the playstation 3 regardless of the rumours. It is all hype and hearsay aimed at upsetting the trend for great consoles by Sony. The real shame of it all is that you give so much credit alternatively to the ultimate corporation Microsoft when we have yet to see how the playstation 3 will compare with xbox 360.
Talk about an article based on hate, twistedhalf truths and outright lies!
#1 Microsoft created the FALSE demand issue. They intentionally shorted the production runs of the 360. This was due to two reasons. #1 complete Q&A had not been completed on the 360 and if recalls had to be issued the numbers would not be so monumental...and guess what, good thing they did...bad drives, bad power supplies, over heating, etc.
#2 With the false supply and demand established it allowed price jacking and a PR element that the said to all that the system was awesome and due to it being awesome everyone is buying it, must be good so OK for me to get it as well. SHAME ON YOU MS!
Your entire article is compeltely basis simply on the fact you say the PS3 has nothing more to offer then the 360. I guess you consider the cell processor which will by no small means out power the 360 by over a factor of 6. The built in WI-FI, you must pay $99 for with the 360, blue ray included, a feature to come later via an add-on drive for the 360. Anyone remember a company that released add-ons for a console system? A add-on drive for a system called the 32x? Sort of died eh?
I recommend Sir or Ma'am you get your facts straight before ever posting an article of such dribble ever again.
Oh, BTW.....I got a 2nd run 360, not a bad system, games need to get better and MS needs to 2nd think the pricing for LIVE. Sony has online play as well, but guess cause it is free you think it is crap.
I also own several other console systems, mostly sega, nintendo, and sony. Sony has been a very heavy company that has repeated taken care of its user base and went out of its way to make sure we get when we pay for. I am not however saying SONY is perfect. Far from it. Wish all too much they would find another company to make the drives for the systems they build as they have failed in the PS, PS2, and most likely in the PSP and PS3 is history repeats. Oh well, guess I will just keep using my PS2 upside down till then. :)
I guess she's against SONY in this one, because they are the megalo company... but so are M$ and Nintendo :P
The PS3 doesn't seem to be overpriced if the hardware specs on the net are the actual console ones... I mean... c'mon, we all know linux guru's will orgasm over this one.
In regards to the harddrive factor... I'd say buy the cheapest one, or try to get a deal with a smaller harddrive or none at all ... and then just buy your own and add it to the system (no amount of gigs will be enough to quench the gamer's thirst), as we all know from experience these consoles are very versatile and succum easily to modifications.
I personally would rather play on my home made console, my computer, it plays all my favourite games, and better graphics than any console... except maybe the PS3 depending on whether or not this whole cell processor thing is legit.... and how the programmers write the multi-core code in..... I don't think that should be a problem for professionals... call of duty 2 runs stellar on my dual core & SLi system.
As the for the bashing of sony, maybe they deserve it for cockyness, and for trying to control gamer's rights to share their games with their friends (if u can't share your games who are you going to play with ???? ...ugly strangers, I guess ahahhahaha jk) then that's understandable, but bashing because of console support?!? I don't get it... not having an online subscription is a GOOD THING... one less thing to worry about every month... I know it's gotten rediculous with WoW, this whole subscription thing hinders human freedom, indirectly, and when you'll figure it out it will be too late... for you that is ;)
my breakdown:
X-box is for the impatient and anxious
Wii is for the young at heart
PS3 is for the hardcore fiend that needs a good lay
Concerned Reader: "I guess you consider the cell processor which will by no small means out power the 360 by over a factor of 6"
I would've agreed with you until this week. However, it appears somebody screwed up somewhere and the Cell processor is broken. It isn't going to perform anywhere near what you expect it will. Local memory read speed has been hobbled and PS3 devs are being asked to read from main memory instead - big performance problem.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32171
Hah all you sony people that dont like to hear the truth ... sony has lost the plot with its power. they ddont care about thier customers, they just want money but the first rule of anything along these lines is ... thier customers. thier market comes from people who wish that sony was how it was in the past with the ps1 but its not going to happen. the crown for this gen may very well go to nintendo and when people start buying products and not brands they will realize how wrong they have been .
To the Main article: Honestly, I didn't even bother reading most of it. I found the comments more interesting. As soon as I started reading the bias against Sony was glaringly obvious. One shouldn't write an article like this at least until the PS3 is officially released and we've been able to see what it can do. And even then it should be looked at from an unbiased point of view. This bash Sony bandwagon has gotten old. Really old.
For Mac: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=17547
Hope that clears things up. That article you gave(if it's the one spoken of here) is bogus.
For Matt N.: Sony wants money? So does Nintendo and Microsoft. So does any company no matter how big or small. Why would you want a Next Gen system to be like the PS1? That would be moving backwards not forwards. Nintendo has pretty much dropped from the serious console wars. They are no longer targetting gamers as their audience. That's why the price tag is so cheap. Microsoft rushed release to be the first one on the scene, but really I haven't seen anything to make me rush to buy. Sony however actually looks more like what I thought a NextGen console would be. They aren't playing it safe for the general public. They are giving a console that will provide for their gamers future needs without worrying about stupid add-ons that would actually end up upping the price. X-box 360 is almost the same price as the PS3 with all those add-ons most likely. Honestly, I'm waiting to see how things happen which one I'll buy, but I'm leaning more towards Sony since despite their arrogance they seem to have released the most solid gaming system of the 3. And the games previewed at E3 look fabulous. Realtime battles in cutscene quality. Oh yeah, I'm definitely biting.
Hear what truth? The PS3 lineup of games just shatter anything the X360 has coming, with the only saving grace being Halo 3.
PS3 won't fail, simple as that. All you Sony bashers can mark that, too.
Nice try, but I guess that your bias is fighting on the wrong front. Here's me being arrogant: You just can't beat a SONY PS.
Can i ask WTF this guy is thinking? Or smoking as the case may be
I for one won't be buying anything Sony anymore. Various experiences of horrible customer service over the past decade have led me to believe Sony is not worth my time or money. I have a Playstation and a PS2, both of which will be scrapped as their obsolecence increases in favor of a product from a company that I'm not at odds with. Maybe I'll just go back to reading.
Peter P says "Why is it so hip to do some Playstation bashing?
haha, oh not used to it? Nintendo has been on the forefront of the bashing for many many years.
Your article is bull... I'm never returning to this website.
I've already pre-ordered a PS3 for £425, and i'll tell you why.
1) Sony take the time to perfect products that will hold value and ride the waves of change better than most other products on the mass market. Don't state Xbox 360's quick time-to-market as an advantage that'll last long - the 'already-out-of-date' pc-sourced hardware will be out-performed by the Cell-based system well into future-gen territories, simply because it's much more advanced. MS could have waited a bit and stuffed dual-core pc processors into that thing and stood a better chance, but maybe the investors were waiting for crumbs..
2) The loyalty sony enjoys from its customers is well earned. As with any mass-market product, longevity, physical quality, general customer satisfaction, accessibility of all products associated with the device, a unique ability to generate a feeling of familiarity with a brand new product etc.. mean that the PS3 is being waited on by loads of folks including myself.
3) Price is not an issue - not when the product clearly demonstrates what a bargain it is. If you assembled everything the premium PS3 will offer, and try the same with the rubbish from Redmond, you'd realise that Sony have done away with petty price wars, and simply said "here it is, as good as it'll need to be over the next couple of years!".. I hate companies that strap people down with invisible reigns simply for walking past their stables. I know what i'm getting when i buy Sony - how many Microsoft customers can say that with the confidence i can?!?
I'll probably get a Wii as well, just to spite XBOX and boost Nintendo's numbers, and also be able to play Mario games every now and again. What exactly do i need a middle-of the road console for???
Regards
i agree with issac
The Sony PS3s Cell CPU and features are barely mentioned in this article.
The PS3 will be able to do all of these things at THE SAME TIME...
Browse the web or check e-mail on a computer monitor
Play 2 player game on two separate HDTV screens
Have the scores or a spectator view displayed on a standard composite television
This is possible through the high speed streaming capabilities of the Cell processor, using extended video modes.
These kind of features are not and will never be present on the XBOX360.
What does this mean for the average person?
Stop upgrading your ever slower Windows machines. Use your PS3 instead, check your e-mail on your HDTV, or on a standard TV or computer monitor if the HDTV is in use. For gaming multiscreen is absolutely intense.
Some games are being built to use all of the outputs if you have them ... computer monitor, standard television and two hdtv screens. Talk about immersive
hey mac,
that supposed "memory error" is just anti-sony propaganda, the article is a fake suposedly originating from the comments of "someone seated next to the writer on a plane trip" its total bs cell is the future
Nice MS/Nintendo ad. This article has no merits whatsoever. If you read any other news sources, you would see the licensing technology isn't happening, Sony has directely stated. Secodn-hand games will still work. Check your sources before you write a 2-page article.
If the Cell CPU is so great, how come NO OTHER computer companies have started using it other than Sony? lol rtlfmlaobbq
ha ha ha
kirameki:
I've looked into what you are saying and you're right, the Inquirer article isn't clear (whether intentionally or not is another discussion). The slide in the article is genuine but it looks like "Local Memory" in this case refers to the local memory on the RSX chip, not the SPE local memory. In which case, this wouldn't be a problem :)
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Did any of you even read the article? These comments are ridiculous.
On the top of your page you have "Intelligent Gaming Opinion." This collection of words does not fall under that label. I'm not a fanboy and I love my 360, but your article was basically trash.
Man, this really got the Sony fanboys up in arms, didn't it?
Sadly, I have to agree with them that this "article," isn't. You've amalgamated the bits of rumors and propoganda from other articles on other sites and reproduced them here with a bit more spin.
Also something that bugged me was the Japanese survey. If this came after the Wii stuff and E3, then the XBox 360 had already been on the market for awhile. Who seriously expects anyone to be "anticipating" something that's already here? The 360 shouldn't have even been a selection.
Wow what a bad article! You can hear the bias in this one. Printing rumor as fact. I guess I don't need to get my info from this site!!!
Biggles and Concerned Reader made great points so I won't rehash you should just read them.
Newsflash: just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it bad.
All of you are WRONG! The Phantom gaming console will reign supreme MUAHAHAHA!
I agree on all points.
As far as I can see, an Xbox 360, fully upgraded, costs less than the cheapest PS3. The graphics on the PS3 are no better than what the 360 can do. They're putting a motion sensor in the sony controller, but only one game (warhawk) is planning to use it. I always prefered the xbox to the PS2; the 'exclusive' games like PGR2 and halo are awesome, and at any partys we would always use xboxes linked up.
This first guy says its at a higher price, has anyone heard what this price is? Well, it's £340 for the standard and £400 for the upgraded! Their sales are going to be way down; and its delayed until november or something.
What annoys me is the way some people have a mindless loyalty to sony, especially if they haven't even tried an xbox.
I've just read some of these other comments, some are truly mind-numbingly stupid.
The HD stuff does no better than the 360's graphics, according to a magasine i read the other day.
Halo 3 is not the only 'saving grace'. Other brilliant games are on the way like Fable 2, Blue Dragon and Splinter Cell 4. And PGR3 owns Gran Turismo any day.
Before anyone suggests it, no I don't work for microsoft, i'm still at school, and I've just looked at both sides of the argument before making such stupid comments.
Nice post Concerned Reader, This article is written in past tense form, as if the PS3 has been on the market for months and everyones giving it bad reviews. Writer, this may be your honest opinion. But you cant try to state fact on on a gaming console that hasn't even come off the shelves yet. What you can do is post positive re-marks about what you like. But save the reviews for when you have actually reviewed what your talking about. Besides everyone knows why XBOX launched so soonas they did. Because they know that most serious gaming consumers would opt to pay 100 more bucks for the PS3 if the had a choice in consoles. But thats just my opinion.
hmm... PS3- $500 Xbox 360-$400(for the one that works) plus the 360 has been out longer so by the time PS3 comes out at $500..the 360 could be at like $350. Microsoft did good with it, I say the PS3 is over rated by alot of ppl. They say its gonna be awesome..when I tell them how much it costs, they change their mind and go for the XB.
I have to say the bias in this article surely shows. What about Nintendo? What about the negative views of the 360? What about M$'s almost non-existent presence in Japan, the biggest gaming market in the world?
LMAO you people are idiots. The PS3 has NOTHING more than the 360 to make it worth so much. There will always be those Sony whores who buy the system just cuz its Sony, but think about it: What games does Sony have? I mean those grand-slam franchises that sell millions of systems? GTA went to XBOX, Grand Turismo won't be out for another 10 years, Final Fantasy is out for all systems, Metal Gear is back with Nintendo....You really wanna pay 600 bucks so you can play the next Star Ocean sequel while your friends laugh it up playin Halo 3 and Super Smash Brothers Brawl?You MUST be kidding.
x box 360 will undoubtly win the console war because sony has and will keep 2 go way down hill
In conclusion to my statement and all the others .... 'im gonna make me own console' whos with me????
where you go and buy games that come in packs of 24 there abouts and you put them in 2 at a time and on the more expensive version it can take 4 at a time. If you win, the games pop backup game length is about 2 minutes. and you can eat them afterwards ..... oh wait toaster .
This is the most biased article I've ever read about the next-gen consoles. I don't know what to say...there is not one paragraph in it that doesn't contain a statement that is either exaggerated, wrong, or taken out of context.
"the Playstation 3 comes in at close to 200 USD/150 GBP more than the 360's Premium package - while, on the whole, offering less."
Please tell me how the PS3 offers less!! I'm not saying which console is better, but as for offerings that add value (and increase price), PS3 offers more. If you think that a blue-ray drive, a 60gig hard drive (40 extra), and memory slots are not worth 200 dollars then you're insane. True, some people may not want/need them, but for those who do it's a good deal. I could go on and on about this article, it is ridiculous.
XBOX 360 IS BETTER YOUPIII
Which is better PS2 or PS3
or maybe Xbox 360 or Xbox
Answer: It doesn't matter ! The important is you
can play it any time!You don't have to be popular
like (I have a PS3 and you don't haha). I even think
that PS2 is better.Or its the same it does't have to
do how it looks like:(PS3 is better because its has better look and looks awesome
than the rotten PS2).No! I think PS2 and PS3,Xbox 360
and Xbox are the same were not idiots the graphics
are still the same, again it does't have to do
how it looks like. Who ever that doesn't believe me is a
Loser AND AGAIN ITS THE SAME!
all of you are loser sony fan boys, that just cant admit that Xbox 360 is better lol
Sony doesent keep promises. What ever happend to downloadable movies and music on your PS2? What ever happend to those 'Toy Story' graphics for the PS2? What ever happend to the PS2 "Being able to surf the web' please...o and Im getting a PS3, 360 and Wii lol werd?
"Yo" what did you call me? you dont understsand
do you, I red about an article that says PS3 has THE SAME chip as PS2 they show me how the the move,graphics and lot of stuff they say it's the same
as PS2.I know PS3 looks awesome but they reall y are
the same just like when PS2 is first out.But I got to say this but you're an idiot.You know nothing about Electronics (bastard)
'PSX' what excactly do you mean when you say PS3 and PS2 are 'the same' I wanna know EXCACLTY what you mean.
The PS3 uses different chips and more advanced chips then the PS2, now if you're talking about the PS2 chip thats going to go in for backwards compatability, then yea, no duh they are the same. The PS2 uses PS1 hardware for backwards compatablity. I just wanna know if you're talking about something else...
..becuase as far as I know. You cant dowload Movies, Music, and other thinhgs on your PS2. And with what Im hearing from Sony. The PS3 will be able to do that this generation. Now I beleive them this time around cuase the 360 is doing it pretty much, and Wii, SO they will HAVE TOO becuase thier competiters are doing it. But I questioned Sony's promises becuase they promised the same for the PS2 but never happened.
sorry for posting so many times in a roll ^_^
Yo you know that PS3 has Wireless Controller right?
Well I searched that PS2 has also a wireless controller it's called Logitech Wireless Controller for PS2 and, PS2 can also do movies and they
say that PS2 is a console within the PS3.I went
alot of websites still PS2 78% and PS3 32% some
are tied so,many people believed that PS2 and PS3
are so the same I'm not here to argue with you
I'm just telling you about ELECTRONICS.Here If it was
the PS3 season and your dad (example)tells you.
What would you choose Dreamcast or nothin
it's better that you can play with better than nothin.
Don't tell me you're going to force him to buy
Wii or PS3 or Xbox 360 If I were you I'd rather choose
Dreamcast better than NOTHING.
'Yo you know that PS3 has Wireless Controller right?'
Yes I do.
Well 'PSX' thanks for telling me about Electronics ^_^
I got to Admit Xbox 360 and Wii is can a cool
Well PS3 is can a COOL TOO and I also think that
Xbox,PS2 and GC(gamecube) are still AWESOME!
When it's the the middle of the next generation season
I'am still going to buy PS2,Xbox,gamecube,games I don't care if PS3 is
better, even PS4 comes out (2015).
PS2,Xbox,GC RULES by the the way I just
got a news from my mom I'mgetting a TWO PS3!
I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO LUCKY!
Yo is not cool PSX is 1000% right theyr'e the same(PS2 and PS3)
and PSX you rock I argree with you I also read
that they have the same Chips and YO! YOU DRULE!
even my friend (who's sittin right to me) agrees with
PSX.and PSX dont' worry were on your side
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The PS3 is targeted at the Japanese and Japanese type games (RPG's like FF etc) and the Xbox is targeted at Americans and the games they like (FPS like Halo). Can anyone think of a great Japanese FPS for the PS2 or a great American RPG for the PS2? So fighting about system performace makes no sense as they'll both be the best at the games they're designed for. The console battle will be won by the console with the better software (it always is) and as long as trhe Xbox is only developed on by Americans and the PS3 is developed on by everyone Sony will always come on tops because not everyone likes FPS and War based games. As for the Wii, who knows, but unless they make a controller that allows you to sit and play games with mimial effort I don't see it taking off.
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let me ask you what kind of system you own presently, o wait . . . I already know. Just because you're an XBOX fanatic doesn't mean it's a better system. Everyone has a different style and taste. Get over it.
Sony isn't putting up nearly enough hype to get the PS3 off the ground. There's nothing wrong with the system or the games (for the most part). They just lack decent customer relations, and have lost track with their audience.
I've owned a PS2 since its launch and I recently bought a GC. I must say that, as I bought a SNES as my first console, I support Nintendo 100%.
I have no doubts about the power (etc.) of the 360. The only thing that draws me away from it is the fact that it was made purely to make money from people who dont own powerful computers.
All in all, Jeremiah is right. Get over it. Buy whatever the hell you want. If you want to get ridiculed, carry on spreading your advertisments all over the internet. It's your choice.
Bull, dont rate a brand new system thats bairly 2-3 months old. Give it some time before you(or anyone) judges the price so soon. $499 360 + game and another controller allready costs just as much as the ps3.
i just want to say I am writing this on my ps3 and i have not one problem with it. It runs perfect doing anything and everything i want it to I have always been a completely loyal customer to song. and i have gone as far as to never bothering getting an xbox or the 360. i would rather light that $300 on fire than spend it on anything microsoft
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Hi,
I'm 21, and I am a gamer since 1992. During all these years, I played on almost all videogaming systems.
Sony made really powerfull gaming consoles, and I will always remember these moments when I played for hours and hours my PlayStation. Now things been changed. We have Xbox 360, we have Wii, we have PS3... Now I own a 360. Guess why?
'Cause since 2007, PS3 is disapointing me. I don't know, but I feel it's the begin of the end of Playstation :-(
Now I play on my xbox, and instead of playing DVD's, and having no built-in wi-fi, it gives me a lot of exciting games... I love ps3, but I think PS1 and PS2 were the best gaming consoles ever made... Since Ken left Sony, PS3 began to fall down...